Update Speculation thread

I'm familiar with the meme, but the use of it in this case kind of shows the lines he's thinking along.

 

Very true, I guess that explains why a boomer wouldn't know

/s (I'm just having some fun)

 

Ok boomer

 

"Design peaked in the 90's" Bahahahaha WHAT.
AbsoLUTELY not. You must have a tumor that takes up 90 percent of your brain to think that car design peaked in the 90s. Did you see the DN101 Taurus of the 90s? That awful thing? What about the fact that you could barely crack four-hundred horsepower with a V-8 too big for any sensibly-sized car? Even worse, remember the Dustbuster? How could anyone in their right mind ever think that the U-Platform vans were well-designed, I mean they looked like a doorjam and fell apart when you breathed near them. Oh yeah, remember the Sunbird? (Yeah I'm going there.) The suspension, for being rather modern for the time, seems to be made of cardboard (Along with the rest of the car), the 3.1 liter V-6 sounds like a lawnmower with rod knock at idle and wheezes out an anemic 140 horsepower. FROM 3.1 LITERS. (Yes the Turbo model made at max 165 horsepower, but for a turbo-four of it's size that's just unacceptable.)
Fact is: Automotive design hasn't peaked YET, give it another twenty years and it probably will peak. We're going through a serious 1958 right now (All cars seem to be rather poorly designed on the outside, and rehashed versions of other models on the inside.) but we're on a turning point.
Also that "emissions restrictions bad" stuff you yammer on about really just proves where you stand on the future of the environment.

Whew, with that out of the way:

I know we have a serious lack of newer cars in the game, but i'm really hoping for a rear-drive 70's american Subcompact at some point. Plox gib gremlin.

 

Fuckin hell my saab made that from a 2 liter in the 70s

 

That in theory would be a good argument but it's turbocharged. But hey-ho: The slant-six in a Valiant Signet (sporty version iirc) made 148 horses in the effing-sixties.

 

I disagree there, 1955-62 was probably the golden age in automotive design (in the US at least)

Cars were art, and it was pretty much just form over function.

Although art is interpretive, so it's just my opinion

The leaning tower of power

The 1961 year model hardtop Valiant was pretty much the unofficial birth of the pony car. (the ones with the 225 ci Slant-6)

 

At least in 1958 designers cared about the car that they styled and did often a fair bit to differentiate the car from the '57s, not to mention that you could actually drive them and look like you had a million dollars on your back pocket even if it was a fairly basic model. Oh did I mention that petrol was only a few cents a litre, also you say that in twenty years time that cars are going to be new designed cutting edge technological advances then your absolutely right yet how many years are those designs going be on the market for, 10, 15 years maybe. As time moves on the importance of the automobile is going downwards and surely by then autonomous vehicles will be somewhat common, I mean after all who want that silly old thing over there that still has a thing called a steering wheel when I can save up for a few more months then I can buy this perfectly safe and economical driverless vehicle that will get me to A to B so I can go on a drinking binge with my friends and come home without a ticket or fine or not come home at all. Those brand new models will soon fall into the same loop we have going on right now, so no, this is not a 1958 as cars are not going to get better, but they are going to fade into oblivion... they are going to become less and less car like and have more emphasis placed on occupant safety and petrol economy to point where auto makers just stop making the car and start making driverless pods
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well I always thought that the Barracuda was the original pony car but I can see how that is as well, I only wish Ford never made the "mustang" (im sure that will be a highly unpopular opinion) sure they're nice and all but too common, hell every one loves a mustang

 

That's a good thing

Not really, car companies that were once innovative and now only pretend to be *cough cough* ford *cough cough* will likely ax their human-driven cars, but i'd bet that one or two foreign automakers will keep producing a sporty, human driven car. It's too big of a market to ignore.

And i can sense a "DrIVInG FeEEl" argument coming on, so I'll say this-
A brand new Impala or Corvette most likely feels better to drive than its older counterpart. Are modern cars more plasticky and computerized? Sure are, but don't go on a boomer-esque rant about it. Fact is, modern cars are easier to control, have less detrimental quirks (Hood ornaments that are a hazard to pedestrians, poor safety/body roll abundance, etc are not present on most modern cars), and are generally smaller in size.
If you have such prolific wet dreams about driving feel, buy a classic car and stop whining about how "new car bad" and "old car good"

 

well I always thought that the Barracuda was the original pony car but I can see how that is as well, I only wish Ford never made the "mustang" (im sure that will be a highly unpopular opinion) sure they're nice and all but too common, hell every one loves a mustang

-of course I agree with you in terms of pedestrian safety and handling issues with older cars and that new cars are almost certainly better in a lot of way than older variants
- im not a baby boomer, i'm a millennial
-and I already have a classic car (well I'm the only one who drives it now anyway), a 1976 Holden Torana hatchback V8

 

May I introduce you to cars that aren't american?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_VESC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_99
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_200_Series

 

I'm aware of these cars, but the discussion is mainly centered around american ones.
(I wonder how the VESC felt to drive?)

boomer is a mindset, not an age in terms of internet slang

 

boomer is a mindset, not an age in terms of internet slang

oh I see then so I am boomer then, well I say that with pride then (I think)

 

ok boomer


/s

On the subject of update speculating:
V8 for hopper (maybe)
Hopper offroad kit
Utah revamp
Atturo collab (maybe released as a mod)

Estimated release: mid - late november / christmas / new years

 

Jesus did we get waaaaaaaaaay off topic here, anyone care to speculate what the release date is, I'm putting my money on the 20th this month (only to help get a bit on track again)

 

Yeah never say that with pride.

 

hence the "(I think)" part, in fact could some one explain to me what the hell a boomer is apart from the brief description that zestyfolfdude said, hell I should just learn shut up sometimes

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=boomer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari&safe=active

 

oh well I know that (thanks though) but as I said I am not a baby boomer but a millennial, the baby boomer age was really some of the best times this world has seen, well except maybe Australia in the '70s

 

C'mon guys, this has already happened a few times before. We're here to speculate about updates.

Now, about maps: I know some people are less-than-happy about Utah getting a remaster, either because there's likely to be an FPS decrease, or because there are older maps that more desperately need remasters. While I agree with both points, I think that every map since Italy needs some form of an update, and it seems to me that every map will get an update eventually. My only worry about the Utah update is that they'll put something in that large open area just off the default spawnpoint. That's my favorite place to romp around and lightly damage a car.

What I think needs to be completely redone (and probably won't be) is West Coast USA. For a city map, it's way too small. If you're going to try and combine all of the features of California (big city, large highway, forest, semi-suburban housing, beach, etc.) then the map needs to at least be as big as Italy. Plus, before it was integrated with the game, Gamergull complained that his traffic tool didn't work properly on WCA because the AI paths were poorly designed or something like that. I believe that is still an issue, though I can't use the traffic tool because I have an igpu and am stuck on the 0.16.3 crash workaround.

As for the LeGran, it doesn't really come off as rushed to me. Sure, most (all?) of the configs are factory ones, but the car itself seems on par. I enjoy driving it because no guilt comes to me when I smash it. I do agree that the airbag steering wheel is off center, and the area around the gear lever needs more detail, but otherwise it seems fine. I don't think it will be redone from scratch.