Which Nissan is the best?

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by General S'mores, Dec 3, 2017.

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Do you like the GT-Rs?

  1. Yes, I'm a fanboy!

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  2. Not really, but it seems sporty enough to like.

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  3. Nope, I prefer other JDM/sporty cars.

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  4. I don't really care about it.

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  1. ladafan01

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  2. MrAnnoyingDude

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    2106 got 2/16 points.

    What could be the peak? 4? 4.5?
     
  3. ladafan01

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    15.1 Vesta (out of 16)
     
  4. Ytrewq

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    You stated all Ladas have strong chassis and no, Porsche is not at fault. I don't even think metal beams and panels can be tuned.
     
  5. ladafan01

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    Every Lada except those based on the 2108 because it's a FWD PoS.
    Atleast the 2110 and later have DOHC engines.
     
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    Why is it? Because you are chronically allergic to FWD?
     
  7. ladafan01

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    It's worse in every way.
    And makes cars useless for anything other than A-B trips.
    Basically - FWD car = appliance, like a washing machine, a TV or fridge - it only does one thing and you use it only for that and once it breaks you throw it away.
     
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    You prefer trips from A to the ditch? That's where oversteer will take you.
    By your logic:
    Appliance

    State-of-art motoring machine
     
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    Put a 350hp engine in the Lada, tune the suspension, put Fiat Coupe brakes and good tyres and it will be faster.
    Compare cars of same age.
     
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    OK:

    Appliances.

    Performance machine.
     
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    You try to direct the argument away, as you didn't state anything about speed, only about FWD cars being 'appliances'.
    Put a 1600 hp (5 times more powerful than stock, just like that Lada) engine in the Civic, tune the suspension, put Bugatti Chiron brakes and good tyres and it will be ripping Bugattis apart, let alone your 350 hp Lada. Just kidding, even without modifications the Type R will be faster than your hypothetical modified Lada, since despite being less powerful and heavier, it has much better aerodynamics and much more sophisticated suspension. Countless experienced engineers were working on that car, it can't perform worse than a Lada equipped with scrap parts by some tuners in an old garage.
     
  12. ladafan01

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    And what I was actually saying is this:

    Masterpiece

    As-fast-as-fwd-will-ever-be
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    How well do those boats handle?
    The SM is great looking, shame it's Fail-Wheel-Drive
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    You are saying that MacCheapshit strut is better than Double Wishbone?
    F1 teams should hire you...
    Ofcourse a track FWD car will beat a 50 y/o family car.
    Question is - how would a 50 y/o FWD family car fair against a 50 y/o RWD family car around a track?
    Or should I start comparing 70s Honda with 2018 BMWs?
     
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    Compare the price. Type R packs 2-3 times more punch per $.
    Double wishbone is heavier, more complex, takes more space and is harder to service. Sounds like that goes agains your philosophy :confused:.
    And nobody compared any cars before you began voicing your "FWD = appliance, RWD= masterpiece" nonsense.
    P.S.: I have nothing against being hired by an F1 team :rolleyes:...
     
  14. ladafan01

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    That's due to brand, not drivetype.
    Double wishbone doesn't lose grip when compressed(MacCheapshit strut gains camber when you load it).
    What's my phylosophy?
    Did I ever say complex and reliable is bad? Complexity is only bad when it's not reliabile.
     
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    Also, that "boat" uses the same sort of suspension his beloved Ladas do - front 2-wishbone, rear 3-link solid axle.
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    Remember that BMW you posted? It has MacPherson.
     
  16. ladafan01

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    So?
    RWD is more important than having double wishbone.
    And it beats the Civic by using the same front suspension type.
    The boat has a leaf axle, Lada has 4-link solid axle coil
     
  17. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Irrelevant at a mundane sedan power level.
    BS.
     
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    RWD makes no difference with low power and is dangerous with high power.
     
  19. General S'mores

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    He also hates British cars for some reason which I have no fucking idea why. The classic Minis are pretty goddamn reliable, and the luxury brands there in Britain (Aston Martin, Rolls-Royce, and Bentley) have some good vehicles (Phantom, DB9, and Continental for example).
     
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    All Minis are rather below average in reliability terms (except the Chrysler-engined manual R50s; those are decent). Another non-reliable-car-country econobox, except this one handles well.
     
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