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    BMW 5-Series coupe (1990-1995):


    The E34 coupe was introduced in 1990 to bridge the gap between the 3-Series and 8-Series coupes. It featured the same range of engines and transmissions as the sedan, including the diesel, M5 and Alpina versions.

    The car sold well enough for BMW to include a coupe in the E39 lineup from the start.
     
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    Lada Samara Universal/VAZ-21090 (1991 - 2014)
    In 1991 Lada presented new model in Samara family, the Wagon or Universal. The car was mainly conceived as replacement for ageing 2104. It had all the same engine and gearbox choices as standard Samara. Rear suspension and luggage area were tweaked so they can withstand heavier loads. In 1997 the car was facelifted along with sedan version. The car was also sold on Western markets under the same trim levels as other body styles. There was also special Nature model, offered from April 1994 till October 1995, and it had metallic color, alloy wheels, roof rack, radio, grey interior and optional aircon and from power windows. It proved pretty succesful, as it was much more modern than 2104, and cheaper than 2111 and later Priora wagon. Some 600K examples left the factory.
     
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    Facel Vega Facel III (1970-1992):

    After 8 years of making the Facel II, the French luxury automaker decided to try building something new. The result was the Facel III, a completely new design of a 2+2 GT car. The front looked a lot like the R107 Mercedes-Benz SL, while the rear resembled a mix of the Jaguar XJS and De Tomaso Deauville.

    The car was originally available with Chrysler engines - either the 440 ci RB-Series or 426 ci Hemi V8, and a choice between a Chrysler 3-speed automatic and an in-house 5-speed manual. However, after a series of emission standards-related power reductions for the Chrysler engines, in 1975 Facel Vega switched to using Jaguar V12 engines with General Motors automatic transmissions as an option, and stuck with these choices until 1992.

    The car had its first facelift in 1978, with the front now looking more like the Maserati Kyalami, and a more XJS-like rear. The next, and last, facelift was in 1985, and it had the car start looking more like an E32 BMW 7-Series in its fascias.

    Production ended in 1992 after the closure of the Facel-Vega brand. 8437 cars were made.
     
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    Chevrolet Camaro/Monte Carlo (Brazilian version, 1970-1993):

    The 2nd generation Camaro arrived in Brazil shortly after its US launch. It was originally available with three different engines - a 153 ci I4, a 230 ci I6 and a 307 ci V8. Despite the lack of bigger V8 engines, it was still seen as one of the most desirable cars in Brazil - although its relatively small sales numbers stopped Ford or Chrysler from selling their pony cars in Brazil.

    While it did receive a range expansion in the form of the 1974 Monte Carlo, a luxury variant of it, as a result of a lack of competition (especially after the 1974 car import ban), the Brazilian Camaro stayed mostly unchanged until 1978, when its front and rear fascias were replaced with the '79 model year ones (although the Brazilian car did not receive the US Camaro's updated interior, or wraparound rear window).

    In 1981, the inline-four received an ethanol variant, and two years later the I6 and V8 followed suit. 1985 brought another facelift, with the fascias changed to look more like the then-current US Camaro, with optional Firebird-like pop-up headlamps in the Monte Carlo.

    After car imports were legalized in 1990, the Camaro and Monte Carlo started losing market share to import performance cars, and they were removed from the Chevrolet lineup in 1993.
     
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    Dacia Avansa (1990 - 2004)
    Dacia's most advanced model made before fall of communism, based on same platform as Renault 19. Generally it would be similar as R19, but similarly styled front as Dacia 1320, and rear like 1325. Interior is the same as R19, but with less equipment and cheaper materials. It was conceived as competition for other models from East, like Lada Samara and Yugo Florida, mostly. There were 3 engines: 1.2 54 HP (carburettor), 1.4 59 HP (carburettor) and 1.6 74 HP (injection) and just 2 transmissions: 4 and 5 speed manuals. The car was exported mostly in European markets. In 1998 the car was facelifted, when it got same style as SuperNova and in 2003 once more, when the interior was also updated, and got design as Solenza. From 1998, all carbureted engine were phased out, and new one was brought, 1.4 fuel injected with 75 HP, from Renault Clio. Also, new better equipment was introduced, such as power windows, central locking, air conditioning, etc. In 2004 the car was discounted, and around 350K examples were built. Name comes from Romanian word for Advanced. Trims were labelled like this: common model was 14S, with basic equipment and 1.4 59 HP engine. Trims were: S, L, and SL (from 1991 to 1998), and from 1998 to 2004 trims were the same as on Solenza and SuperNova.
     
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    Skoda 140/160/160D/180/180D/200/220/Wartburg 460 (1978-1996 for Skoda, 1978-1992 for Wartburg):

    In the mid-1970s the engineers in both Skoda and Wartburg decided to make a midsize car that would be placed above their standard offerings. In order to save money (which they weren't allocated that much of), the companies decided to make the new car a joint project.

    The car was quite similar to the Peugeot 505 and Datsun Bluebird 910, with two different front ends - the Skoda one was similar to British Leyland's Princess, while the Wartburg front end was similar to the Audi 80 B2 one. The Wartburg was available as a 4-door sedan or wagon, while the Skoda also had a coupe version. Skoda's coupes received a "C" at the end of their names, and the wagons were "V".

    At the start, three engines were available: a 70 HP 1.4, 83 HP 1.6 and 96 HP 1.8, all powering the rear wheels through a 5-speed manual gearbox. In 1980, Skoda made a 110 HP 2.0 engine available, and two years later a 130 HP 200CR version, with uprated handling, joined the coupe range. In 1983, the Skoda-Wartburg design team received a license to use the Ford 1.6 diesel.

    Two years later the Skoda was restyled, gaining 2nd gen Toyota Camry-like fascias and a slight power increase. In the same year, export to the US began, helped by the addition of a 4-speed automatic transmission - starting Skoda's history of presence in the USA.

    In 1986, the Ford diesel was replaced with the newer Lynx-series one. That year also saw Skoda's not-too-successful entry into Group B rallying and the introduction of a homologation special car, the 220CR with a 250 HP turbocharged engine. In 1987, the Wartburg 460 was redesigned, gaining Audi 80-like fascias.

    Five years later the Wartburg was taken out of production, while the Skoda got another mechanical and external update, gaining Rover 600-like fascias. In 1996 the Skoda 760-series range was taken out of production to make room for Octavia production.
     
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    Rover 800-Series (1985-1995):

    After the Honda deal fell through, British Leyland was left with insufficient funds to make an all-new E-segment car. As a result, they decided to launch Plan B - the LM15 project, an enlargement of the Montego with a new roof and fascias (similar to our world's 800). At the same time, they heavily facelifted the SD1 for 1986 and kept selling it to appease the more traditionally-minded customers.

    The 800-Series was available with 1.6, 2.0 and 2.0 turbo petrol engines, with the latter having up to 185 HP in the top variant, as well as the 2.0 diesel and 2.5 turbodiesel ones. The transmission range consisted of a 5-speed manual and a 4-speed automatic.

    While the new Rover offered pretty decent value for its price, it was not really as good as competitors like the Vauxhall Carlton or Ford Granada, and so sales were limited to the budget-minded customers, cheapening Rover's brand image.

    The car was facelifted in 1990. Five years later, it was replaced with the all-new 75 model.
     
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    Did you conceive this as altered IRL 800-Series?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Licorne Sagitte (1949-1957):

    After WWII General Motors decided to enter the French market by buying the failing Licorne company.

    Their first post-war design, the Sagitte, was ready for 1949 and originally available only as a sedan. It was an unibody car with a 1153 cc 47 HP four-cylinder engine, sending its power to the rear wheels through a 4-speed manual. In 1950, a station wagon version was made available, and a pickup truck followed soon after.

    The 1953 redesign not only changed the car's appearance, but also broadened its engine range (1.1 46 HP, 1.3 58 HP and 69 HP) and added 2-door hardtop coupe and convertible variants.

    The car sold well enough that in 1957 it received an all-new second generation. At that point, the brand was also making a delivery van and a larger family car, sharing the 1.3 engine as one of the options, and was established as a major player on the French market.
     
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    Fiat Amalfi (1979 - 1985)
    Fiat's midsize US and Canada only RWD sedan. It would be the size of Fiat 130, with width of 1.7 metres, roughly. Front end would be similar as from Fiat 130 Coupe, only the car would have bigger plastic bumpers with chrome inserts. Rear end would be borrowed from Alfa Romeo 90, but with lower positioned plate position, and reverse light placed behind it. Interior would be similar as from Argenta. The car is based on the same floorpan as Argenta and 132. Main idea behind this car was to take significant market share from domestic models. Hence the rear wheel drive, bigger dimensions than other Fiats. The car was produced in Italy, because Fiat decided that it would be too expensive to build a factory in US. Engines initially available were: 2.0 115 HP, 2.8 V6 160 HP and 3.2 V6 180 HP. All engines were available with either mechanic or electronic fuel injection. Transmissions were 3 and 4 speed automatic, as well 5 speed manual, but it wasn't a common option. For model year 1980, the car got smaller boxer engine with 2.5 140 HP from Lancia Gamma. New wheel, upholstery designs and colors were introduced too. In 1981 it got the more major improvements, new digital cluster, new grille and 3.8 V6 engine with either 200 or 220 HP. Models with this engine were only sold on order, as it was top of the range, and later this engine was fitted in Sportivo trim. 1982 saw the introduction of revamped interior, new bumpers and lights. Models from 1983 to 1985 didn't have changes other than colors, wheels, upholstery and some optional extras. The car had options as power windows, central locking, power steering, leather seats, etc. In 1983 special Sportivo model was introduced, with 230 HP, sports seats, rear lip, twin exhaust bigger wheels, etc. Sales were very good, as journalists praised good looks and handling. The car hadn't had many faults, except the early models have problems with injection, which was quickly solved. Rust proofing was excellent and many cars survived. Total 600K examples were produced. It was dropped in 1985 in favour of new FWD Croma which was also brought to US as hatchback and sedan (sedan had same rear end as hatch, not the one from Lancia Thema). The name of the car should've originially been Amefi (acronym of AMErica and FIat), and then someone suggested that name is similar to name of town Amalfi, and after that, that name was used. It was also available as wagon and coupe and cabrio.
     
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    Toyota Corona P/FSO 1200/1300/1500/1600/2000D/1900D (1968-2003):

    Originally the Polish carmaker FSO was supposed to license its sedan from Fiat, but after the lesser-known Toyota submitted a better bid, the choice was made to produce a car based on one of their offerings. The Corona P was a mix of the Corona Mark II's body and the standard Corona's drivetrain and 1.2/1.5 engines, as well as a new front end based on the normal Corona. It was sold as a 4-door sedan, 5-door wagon and 2-door pickup (the latter two since 1972, with the different styling to Toyota's own Corona Mark II versions).

    Exports started soon after the Polish Toyota was introduced. In 1976 the car was restyled, gaining front and rear ends similar to the 2nd generation Carina. Two years later, it was renamed to FSO 1200/1500, as the license terms only allowed the Polish side to use the Toyota name for ten years, and gave its platform and engines to the FSO Polonez.

    1983 saw an addition of a diesel version, which was Fiat's 60 HP 2.0 unit that FSO licensed after its Fiat production stopped. Two years later, the car was restyled once again, with Fiat Regata-like styling.

    The car was manufactured without significant changes until 1992, when it was given new engines - a 65 HP 1.3 one, an 83 HP 1.6 one and a 70 HP 1.9 diesel from PSA. Two years later, it received a Ford Taurus-like front grille and a long-wheelbase double cab pickup truck version. While sedan and wagon production stopped in 1997, the pickups were manufactured until 2003.

    Besides the standard production versions, some 1.6 twin-cam cars with 120 HP were built between 1972 and 1974 as homologation cars for rallying.

    In the end over 1.6 million of these cars were made in Poland.
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    I would say that in the harsh emission control years the outputs of these engines, especially the more powerful ones, would be a bit lower.

    At that time, even the most powerful BMW 6-Series was only making 181 or 174 horsepower in the US.
     
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    IMAD Régent (ИМАД Регент) (1930 - 1939)
    IMAD Régent is a Yugoslavian, by today's standards, supermini car, available as 2 door saloon, 4 door saloon, coupe, convertible and light truck. The car is based on Peugeot 201 running gear and chassis, but with Austin 10-like body, while facelift models had Ford Eifel-like style. In 1928, after seeing that taxes on cars and fuel were enormous in Yugoslavia, and small number of drivers were complaining about that and after long "battle" they succeded and taxes were taken down. In 1929 someone in goverment suggested that Yugoslavia should establish its car factory, which was decided afterwards. The company was named IMAD (which stands for Industrija Motora - Akcionarsko Društvo or Industry of the Engines - Joint Stock Company), and first factory was built in part of Belgrade called Rakovica (company IMAD existed IRL and produced Praga RN trucks before WWII. After it tractors were produced there until recently). Decision about what car will be made was brought immediately, as Yugoslavia had friendly relationships with France. So, the car was French based. Decision that Peugeot will provide the license was made after they offered best conditions. Characteristics of the car should've been: light, small, cheap and with multiple bodystyles. In 1930 production officially started in presence of King Aleksandar I of Yugoslavia, French ambassador and representative from Peugeot. Parts were produced throughout the country, engine was built in Bosnia (Tuzla), body panels in Serbia (Kragujevac), interior in Croatia (Zagreb), suspension in Slovenia (Maribor). The car was modified by Yugoslav engineers, so it can seem be different than Peugeot. The car was named Regent, as it was entry level car, and it was written in French, so it can suggest the origin. Two engines were available. 1122cc with 23 HP and 1307cc with 35 HP. The trim level weren't actually present, buyer could only choose options like, openable windscreen, double wipers, spare tire, two tone paint, white interior, different upholstery, engines, double rear lights, etc. Each body style had its own name, both on this and other models of the factory. For example, saloon models were called Alexander, cabrio Marie, coupe Pierre and truck was called Phillip. In 1933 first changes were brought, when engines got bigger power, 25 HP for smaller and 38 for bigger one. In 1936, new body was introduced, similar to Ford Eifel's. All body styles were kept. Production was stopped in 1939, when new successor model, the streamlined 30/43, was introduced. For 10 years, around 22K examples of various versions were built.
     
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    I think 56k sold is a bit too much.

    For comparison, the real-life Tatra 57, which was quite a popular economy car, sold about 27k between 1931 and 1948.
     
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    I put 22K, I think it's realistic.
     
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    Well, given that the real-life rolling stock of Yugoslavia was around 10-20k cars at that time, it's still quite high.

    Unless you imagine some sort of explosive growth in motoring.
     
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    The latter. I mentioned that in the text.
     
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    Renault 19 Colombia (1990 - 1995)
    After seeing that only wagon in their lineup is 21 Nevada, that is significantly expensive than smaller models, Renault decided to make a smaller wagon. The result was a 19 Wagon, called 19 Colombia. It would look like the render above, but with same rear lights as on Chamade. It had same engine options as it. It was succesful enough that Renault replaced it with new Megane wagon in 1995.

    VW Golf 2 Cabrio (1986 - 1993)
    Cabrio version of Mk2 Golf introduced to replace old Mk1 based cabrio. It would look like the IRL model above, but roof would go till the end of boot lid. In 1989 the model was facelifted, gaining double front lights and wide bumpers. Had all the engines as the normal Golf, from 1.6 above. There was just 1.8 diesel, from those type of engines.

    Mercedes-Benz C201/A201 (1982 - 1996)
    After seeing that BMW and Audi have smaller sedan based coupes and cabrios, Mercedes decided to present cabrio and coupe versions of its new model, 190. They shared everything with 190, engines, gearboxes and versions. In 1993 these two model were facelifted, when they got similar front as new C-Class, new more rounded bumpers, and new rear lights, as well as upgraded interior.

    Fiat Croma Sedan (2005 - 2012)
    Sedan version of an IRL Croma. Fiat presented it because they wanted to move themselves closer to other brands like VW, Renault, Toyota who all had D-segment car in a lineup. It featured all the same equipment and engine and gearbox options as wagon. On numerous tests, version with 1.9 JTD engine with 150 HP was declared as "most reliable Fiat ever." The car was facelifted in 2007, same as wagon. Both sedan and wagon were dropped in 2012 in favour of a new model in this class, the Argenta.


    Škoda Octavia Hatchback (1998 - 2003)
    In 1998 someone suggested that Škoda should make a Golf sized Octavia, which will have Golf mechanics, Škoda look and price of a Polo. That year such a car was introduced and started production. It was no more than rebadged Golf, with Octavia's front and Škoda styled rear, i.e. tailights in Škoda style and plate on rear door. Interior was the same as in Golf, but with cheaper materials and Škoda logo on steering wheel. It had all the same engines as normal Octavia, including the one from vRS. The main problem of this car was another Škoda, Fabia Wagon, which was cheaper and offered the similar space. It took away most of its buyers, so Škoda killed it a year before new generation. Octavia Mk2 didn't have this version.
     
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    Peugeot 308/3008/5008/Citroen C4/C4 Picasso/C4 Grand Picasso e-Hybrid (2010-2017):

    In 2010 PSA introduced the e-Hybrid range, a series of economy-focused hybrid cars. They were powered by the combination of a 90 HP 1.6 turbodiesel engine and a 37 HP electric engine, making a combined 115 HP, and offered a choice between a 6-speed manual and automatic gearbox. All these cars were front-wheel-drive.

    While they weren't a giant success, they managed to attract quite a following thanks to the great fuel economy, being able to easily get below 3.5 l/100 km, and became a popular choice among European taxi drivers.
     
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    BMW 3-Series Compact (2006-2011):
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    In order not to risk its premium image with selling a normal compact car, BMW decided to extend the life of the "short-deck" 3-Series into the second generation, only adding a 5-door model into the range.

    Both petrol (from 316i to 335i) and diesel (from 316d to 335d) variants were offered, with an M3 variant being considered, but not added.

    The car's production was ended in 2011, when BMW reconsidered its stance on compacts and introduced the 1-Series.
     
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