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  1. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Fiat 130 (1974-1981):

    Shortly after the 130's introduction, Fiat realised that the car was underperforming in the market, so they decided to follow Paolo Martin's advice of making a new sedan model, more similar to the Coupe. It got the same powertrain options as the previous 130.

    However, the redesign did not improve sales, and after the second fuel crisis did further damage to the big car segment, Fiat decided to pull out of the F-segment, never having recouped the money invested into the 130's redesign.
     
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    This could've been maybe the classiest Fiat ever.
     
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    Mercury Villager (1989-1998), Lincoln Bermuda (1992-1998)
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    After deciding to coproduce a sporty coupe, Ford and Mazda decided to cooperate in another sector - minivans. In 1989, the Mercury Villager, a rebadged Mazda MPV, reached the showrooms with a 3.0 V6 and 4-speed automatic - a combination it would retain to the end of its life cycle in 1998.

    However, Ford had its sights set higher, and in 1992 they introduced the Lincoln Bermuda, the first luxury minivan. It was a rebadge of the Nissan Quest, and shared its 3.0 V6 engine and 4-speed automatic.

    While neither vehicle was a big sales success, they managed to sell well enough to get second generations.
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    Chevrolet Corvette (1977-1987):
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    The C4 Corvette was originally going to be powered by a rotary engine, but when this plan failed to get off the ground, the new Chevy got the engine its predecessor had - the 180/210 HP 350 ci V8. At least the convertible version was not cancelled, with Chevrolet taking the risk of marketing a convertible in the late 70s.

    But the big news came with the 1979 Chevrolet Corvette ZL1, powered by a 280 HP turbocharged version of the 350. It was one of the fastest cars in the world, and the fastest American car at all, and managed to put the Vette back in the high-performance game.

    The following years brought power increases, making it go up to 240 HP in the base 1987 model and 360 HP in that year's ZL1, as well as a major restyling for 1982.

    The next Corvette, the 1988 C5, brought a major redesign and a switch to a mid-engine layout.
     
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    Alfa Romeo Giulia (2012 - 2019)
    First Alfa Romeo released after 2010 takeover by BMW. The car is based on F30 3-Series platform and most of drivetrain. The car would look like from the render above with rear similar to Giulietta. Interior would be similarly styled as in Giulietta.
    In late 2000s Alfa Romeo was in financial troubles, so Fiat decided to sell it. Best offer was brought by BMW Group and in 2010 BMW finished the purchase. BMW so got the right on Alfa Romeo name, all intellectual property, as well as factories and mechanic stuff. BMW decided to place Alfa lower in range, below itself, but with all the same mechanic. New Giulietta that was presented recently stayed in lineup. In 2011 new owner decided to drop an old 159 and replace it with a new car. So, the new Giulia came along. It was RWD, with all the engine options as 3-Series, up to the one in M3, for petrol models, and 330d, for diesels. Original Alfa Romeo engines were present too, such as 1.9 and 2.0 MultiJet. There was also hybrid model, presented in 2016, as well as performance model, with the same engine as in 340i, called Quadrifoglio Verde. The car was also available as liftback coupe, called GTV and convertible, called GTA and wagon, with CrossWagon version. The range was facelifted in 2015. The car was sold worldwide, and proved very succesful, and after it Alfa Romeo presented whole row of new BMW based models.
     
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    Ford Fiesta (1977-1983)/Escort (1978-1984)/Pantera II (1978-1985):

    Following Henry Ford II's unwillingness to cooperate with Honda, a group of private investors bought the company out and started working on new B-segment, C-segment and sports cars with Honda.

    The first effect of the cooperation was the 1977 Ford Fiesta, a 3-door hatchback closely related to the Mk1 Honda Civic and sharing its 1.2 and 1.5 engines, as well as getting the old 0.9 and 1.1 Ford powerplants in the base version and an uprated 1.6 version of the 1.5, fitted to the XR2i Fiesta.

    Shortly thereafter the new Escort was released. It used a platform based on the Civic and Accord ones, able to accept engines up to a 2.0 DOHC in the RS2000 version, and was available as 3- or 5-door hatchback, 4-door sedan, 2-door coupe and 5-door wagon.

    Its drivetrain (except for the base 1.1 and 1.2 engines) was then used in the Pantera II, an affordable sports car that was meant to be sold to the more purist sort than the Capri.

    All these cars were hits, thanks to Honda teaching Ford management about the importance of build quality, their fuel-efficient engines, good handling and Ford's wide distribution network. Honda's engineering influence ended up spreading to the rest of Ford Motor Company cars, and Ford unseated GM in the US, British Leyland in the UK and Volkswagen in West Germany from the #1 sales spots in the 80s.

    In fact, the partnership had an influence on American politics, with its success being a factor in making one of the architects of the transformation, Ross Perot, win the 1992 presidential election.
     
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    BMW AG's alternate history lineup:

    MG -
    entry-level brand, competing against Seat or Kia's cheaper models and targeted at young, price-conscious and fleet buyers. Offers standard A-, B-, and C-segment cars, A- to D-segment crossovers (including C coupe one), a compact minivan and an FWD entry-level roadster.

    Rover - Slightly above MG, but sharing most of its technology, it competes with VW or Peugeot. A- to E-segment standard passenger cars, A- to D-segment crossovers (including B, C and D coupes) and a D-segment minivan.

    Mini - entry-level premium brand. A-, B- and C-segment passenger cars, A-, B-, and C- segment crossovers (including B and C coupe ones) and a C-segment minivan.

    Alfa Romeo - Slotting below BMW, supposed to compete for price-conscious and fleet buyers in the premium sectors. Passenger cars from B- to E-segment, plus crossovers in these segments (including C- and D-coupe ones), compact minivan and a Z4/2-Series-based sporty roadster/coupe.

    BMW - Mostly like in real life, but without the 2-Series minivan, and with the i1 and i6 in production. Also does not have such a leasing push in order to maintain exclusivity, leaving the entry-level luxury status to Alfa Romeo.

    Maserati - High-end brand competing with stuff like Aston Martin or Bentley. E- and F-segment passenger cars and crossovers (including coupe crossovers), 2-seater AM Vantage competitor, a 2+2 GT fighting the Continental GT and DB11, plus an 812 Superfast/Aventador-competitor supercar and a mid-engined electric hypercar.

    Rolls-Royce - mostly like the real-life Rolls, but with a V16 engine in the Phantom and electric options for all their cars.

    Land Rover - the cheaper luxury SUV brand, selling a midsize Hilux-based pickup to replace the old Defender, the new Defender, a Defender-inspired compact crossover, plus normal B- to E-segment crossovers.

    Road Rover - slotting between LR and Range Rover, selling a C-segment hatch, D-segment wagon and E-segment sedan and wagon, all with an offroady appearance and supposed to compete with stuff like Volvo's Cross Country line and Audi's Allroad stuff.

    Range Rover -
    mostly like in real life, but with added "coupe" Velar, Sport and large Range Rover, and the big Range more aimed at the Bentley Bentayga.
     
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    Fiat Campagnola (1984-1996):

    In 1984 Fiat introduced the 3rd generation Campagnola, produced in Poland in a joint venture with FSR (which branded their cheapened version as Tarpan), available as a pickup or 3-door SUV with a removable rear roof option. The new generation was made more accessible for non-offroad-centered applications, having a more car-like interior and independent front suspension. It was available with 1.8 and 2.0 gasoline engines, as well as 2.4 naturally aspirated and turbocharged diesels.

    The car soon became quite popular among casual users as a cheaper alternative to cars like the Range Rover or G-Class, and in 1987 a 5-door version was added to cater to people buying Campagnolas as family cars. Around the same time, part of the production was moved away from Poland to avoid the quality issues, and the 16 valve version of the 2.0 was added.

    1990 brought a restyle, which made the car look more like one of its competitors, the Nissan Terrano, and added 1.9 turbodiesel and 3.0 V6 engines, as well as an automatic gearbox option. Three years later the Campagnola was given a smaller counterpart, the Sedici, one of the first compact SUVs.

    The 3rd generation Fiat Campagnola was discontinued in 1996, following a successful market career.
     
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    2015-today saudi arabian GM

    In saudi arabia and austrailia, bigger engines and rwd were getting more popular, so gm released an all new line for SA and AU!

    Chevrolet chevele LS/Holden commodore s6
    4.3L i6, 370hp, 360lb-ft
    Chevrolet Chevelle SS427/ Holden commodore GTS427 got 2015 zl1 hood, and a 620hp 7.0L v8
    The GTSR got the 760hp supercharged engine from the (absolutly massive) chevy caprice SS/holden caprice grange, and also got a full rollcage, canards, and a massive wing
    The commodore clubsport and SS396 got 570hp 6.5L V8s
    The holden trailblazer (chevy blazer) was beefed up with solid front and rear axles, as well as bigger tires and engines like the 5.7L 400hp V8, 280hp 4.9L N/A deisel i6, 370hp 4.3L i6, 2.7L turbo i5 290hp, and 167hp 2.4L turbo deisel i4. It was available only as a 3 row 8 seater, but most people kept the back row down. The new SUV also had a hard top removable roof. A new AWD daily driver hatchback by the name of the holden torana was launched, and a chevy onix XL soon followed. Caddilac Got upscale models of many of these. The CTS (compact touring sedan) hybrid was an upscale model of the onix XL and torana, the independent air suspension escalade was an upgrade to the trailblazer and blazer. The seville was a luxury alternative to the commodore and chevelle, as was the fleetwood to the caprices. A hybrid MTC (midsized touring crossover) was based on the captiva/equinox. Somehow, the C8 didn't pass some tests, so GM paid a private company to make a handbuilt, roadster or fastback, 427cui or 760hp supercharged front engine vette. the 427 was available in the standard 7 speed manual only stingray (which got a hood scoop from the 1967 corvette 427), or the track oriented 7 speed manual only grand sport (with red hash marks and a white "t stripe"). The supercharged v8 found its way into the awd, dual clutch, paddle shifted, 10 speed, semi track oriented Z/06. They offered only one car (excluding the spark/onix) with a fwd option, the chevy captiva/holden equinox, a popular crossover that got a spicy 290hp turbocharged i5 SS/SV5t variant. In the truck market, there was the Chevy el camino/hoden ute as well as the larger chevy 1500 and 2500 series (holden colorado and colorado XL). The only other vehicles they sold there were huge fleet trucks and city cars (chevy onix/holden spark).
     
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    Could you try to format your writing? It's hard to read all this stream of consciousness stuff.
     
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    what do you mean?


    Oh, you mean paragraphs?
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    Peugeot 105 (1985 - 1992)
    Peugeot's first A segment car. It would look similar as 205, but with Fiat Uno shaped rear and length of around 3.5 metres. Front would be similar, but with lights shaped as on Autobianchi Y10. Main idea behind this car was Peugeot's intention to attract younger buyers. It used the same suspension setup as 205, as well as engine and drivetrain configuration. 105 was one of rare smaller and ordinar cars which had alloy wheels on all trim levels. It was often colored in bright colors, such as yellow, orange, light green, sky blue, etc. The 105 itself was just shortened and narrower 205. It was only available as 3 door car. It featured many options, such as: variety of upholstery styles, alloy wheels, sunroof, stripes, etc. Engines were:
    1.0 I4 43 HP (for following trim levels: XE, XN)
    1.1 I4 53 HP (for XE, XN, XL)
    1.3 I4 64 HP (for XE, XN, XL, XS)
    1.4 I4 70 HP (only for XS and GTI)
    In 1987 1.8 diesel engine was introduced with 58 HP. Models with that engine had additional D in trim name. That model didn't prove so popular. Two years later the car was facelifted when it got new bumpers, lights and grille, all in style of 405. There were also special editions, such as Party and More Party. Party was introduced in 1986, and it even more aimed at young buyers. It was mostly colored in yellow with stripes. Its main feature was possibility to enter into the car through boot lid. Boot wasn't covered with carpet, and it was an option to install a rubber protector. Also, it featured a small step bar on the place where tow hook is normally installed, to make entering easier. More Party was realised in cooperation with Heuliez. Essentially, it was a convertible, but the roof was exchangeable, and the car could easily be turned into a hard top or even a van. It also featured rear door entering, with same bar. But, that was much easier as the car got plastic removable boot lid. Both models were produced in total 5123 examples, from 1986 to 1992.
    The 105 was discounted in 1992, in favour of a new, bigger 106. Some 290K 105s were produced.
     
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    Audi RS3 (2001-2003)
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    Following the success of the sporty S3 model, Audi decided to bring the new extreme version of their hatchback on the market. Powered by the same engine found in the S3, but twincharged, it produced 290hp, making it the one of the fastest hatchbacks of that time and propellling it from 0 to 100kmh in just 5.4 seconds, while the max speed was about 275kmh. With an RS4-styled bodykit and wheels, it was distinctive to its less powerful counterpart, thanks also to wider wheel arches and tires. Sadly, the world wasn't ready for such powerful little cars, so less than two thousand were produced. Some prototypes of the next gneration, codenamed 8P were made, but the RS3 was abandoned until its (the 8P) end of production life.
     
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    Opel Ascona Caravan/Vauxhall Cavalier Estate (1976-1981):

    Shortly after introducing the Ascona and Cavalier, GM decided to add an estate version to make the cars more competitive against such rivals as the Ford Taunus/Cortina, Morris Marina or VW Passat. It was similar to the later V-Body estates, and shared the trim levels with the four-door competitors.

    These additions proved successful, partially due to having flat-fold rear seats as standard, and led to the next generations of these cars having estate versions from the start.
     
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    Citroen EX (1985 - 1996, van until 1995)
    Citroen's first minivan. It would look like the prototype from the first photo, but with AX styled front and BX Break shaped rear and slightly different tailights. The car would be higher and shorter than BX Break. The car was partially made as answer to Renault Espace, but Citroen engineers thought the Espace's size is too big, so they decided and made smaller car. The EX would share engines and gearboxes, and mechanics generally with BX. Floorpan would be slightly wider. Beside passenger model, there were 2 commercial models: C10 and C15. C10 would be litteraly the same car as passenger EX, only with everything behind driver and passenger removed. C15 would be slightly longer and would have an option to have raised roof. Also, suspensions would be tuned so they can withstand higher loads. In 1992 the car was facelifted, gaining the front and rear styled as on Xantia. The car was praised for comfort, but many owner have complained about expensive and complicated maintenance. However, the car was produced in 670K examples, including C10 and C15. Its spiritual successor is Xsara Picasso, presented in 1999, but after a prototype from 1997.
     
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    I would think that MG would continue as Rover's performance brand. Mini would do A segment, B segment, C, m, and D segment cars, aswell as lots of crossovers

    Rover would be making C segment, D segment, and E segment cars, as well as 3 4wd SUVs, the 65x, 85x, and 125x.
    Alfa would be basicaly base model bmws with a little italian twist. BMW would be more high end than it is today. I think you got rolls right, but the rovers wrong.
    Land rover would have a rugged new defender (more agressive looking than the new defender) with a V8 option, a more streetable yet still offroad 3 row defender with more subtle lines called the discovery, and a few small crossovers. The Range rover line would be the 3 row Range Rover (4.5 v8, 5.2 V8, 5.2 SC), Sport (3.5 V6, 4.5 V8, 5.8 V8), Evoque, Evoque coupe, Evoque convertible, Velar, and Hybrid. I like your take on maserati.
     
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    Renault Talisman XMOD (2016-):


    In order to boost its image, Renault decided to introduce an offroady version of the Talisman shortly after the release. In an unusual twist, the XMOD trim level was available in both sedan and wagon versions of the car.

    Most of the range was available in the XMOD trim level, although the 110/120 HP diesel was excluded from that range. The XMOD was the only Talisman available with four-wheel-drive (but not with the base diesel and petrol engines).

    While the sedan was dropped during the facelift, the estate achieved good enough sales not to be discontinued.
     
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    This would certainly be a great idea for Renault to rise Talisman's sales.
     
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