Outdated 1995 Ibishu Kashira (Gen 2) 3.1

The compact minivan that became a worldwide phenomenon!

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  1. Peterkragger_PL

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    Yes
     
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  2. firstclassmemes

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    i know this says outdated, but can i still use this mod without any major problems?
     
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    I've had no issues yet. I think in this case all it means is "unsupported" (as of 0.21.4) :)
     
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  4. firstclassmemes

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    thank you
     
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  5. bmwcrazy456

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    Yeah, same here. I have not had any problem with either instance of the Kashira thus far, and actually have used it quite regularly.
     
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    Best vehicle mod so far!
     
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  8. Agent_Y

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    It's one of the best ones but not THE best, a lot of things could be better. Definitely it's one of the most fun ones to use though.
     
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  9. bmwcrazy456

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    Yeah... I think the 210 may be the best, yet why do I use this one so much more?
     
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    Due to it originally being a pessima, the suspension is just... wonky asf. Not only was it not meant to be awkwardly stretched out, but the added weight make it incredibly weak.
    Other than that, it's good quality. Not dev by any means, but above average for sure.
     
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    Because it actually has skins. In my opinion the 210 really is one of the best mods ever, in the top 5 for sure, but sadly it has no skins (despite being skinnable, there are mod skins for it) and no race/drag parts (not like it needs them but they would be nice to have).
     
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  12. Jer

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    what is a 210?
     
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  14. bmwcrazy456

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    Not to get off topic (even though I obviously am) there was an expansion for that
    https://www.beamng.com/resources/satsuma-210-pack.2320/

    Back on topic - honestly, I never noticed; I usually use the beater van when I drive myself since it's much more fun (for me) - in the time I've driven a stock configuration, I've never had any kind of issue with the suspension, but I probably never did anything too crazy in it.
    Then again, that could be Gen 1, which I don't use nearly as often as Gen 2.
     
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    That "expansion" literally adds 1 engine and some unrealistic stripped configs, I could make something like that in 1 day, while the original mod took over a year to become as good as it is now.
     
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  16. Plymouth Superbird 1970

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    Apologies for the OT but I have to say... The 210 is fantastic. Still works and it was made in.. what, 2018? Other than an alignment issue which is fixed by mapping your mouse to steering, it's amazing. Feels very 1950's UK esque.
    Woulda put this on the discussion for it but I don't want to bump
     
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  17. bmwcrazy456

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    Now, I could have sworn that one of those mods added a drag config; but maybe that was the base. satsuma.png

    And back on-topic (I do my best) - on the suspension issue
    They don't look the same -
    From L->R
    Pessima
    Gen 1
    Gen 2

    From Front
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-27-03.png
    From rear
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-25-14.png


    Pessima
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-29-06.png
    Gen 1
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-28-25.png
    Gen 2
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-28-02.png

    It looks like Gen 2 and the Pessima share more suspension wise, despite the fact that Gen 1 came first and the Pessima is more based on that.

    Which is odd; I've had no issue with the rear Gen 2 suspension ever. I don't think these were released in tandem, were they?
     
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    All of this will probably get deleted due to extreme off topic lol.
    The drag variants come with the Satsuma by default, that mod only adds a weaker version of the rotary engine and the stripped configs.
    And the thing with the Kashira is that the Gen 1 had modified Pessima suspension, and Gen 2 used to have the same, but it was updated to get it closer to the original Pessima suspension in order to add AWS back.
     
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    Thought those were with that mod. Whoops

    Note: Rear -> Front on all pictures
    But only the Gen 2 JDM had the system;
    Pessima AWS
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-40-18.png
    Gen 2 JDM AWS
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-42-06.png
    Gen 2 JDM same (ish) trim w/out AWS
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-45-30.png
    Gen 1 same (ish) trim w/out AWS
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-46-56.png
    Gen 1(?) Pessima same trim (as AWS Pessima) w/out AWS
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-49-27.png

    You may have a point; Gen 1 just looks like it's missing the little black mounting, which I find odd that Gen 2 has it, since the Gen 1(?) Pessima and Kashira overlap (but don't quite match) and the Gen 2 and the Gen 2(?) Pessima do, yet the Pessima (new) (I used LX V6 to match trim for the first picture) have nothing in common, neither does the stock suspension (not that they're that different)
    New Pessima LX V6 Sport w/out AWS
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-52-57.png
    New Pessima LX w/out AWS
    screenshot_2021-03-28_14-56-10.png

    And they look pretty much the same. Which I find interesting that both the modmaker/Ibishu went for the weird design of
    Old Pessima - It's own thing
    Old Van - Old Pessima w/out big black bar thing
    New Van - Old Pessima
    New Pessima - It's own thing.
    Which is odd from the perspective of both vans having the same platform as a compact sedan, while the new sedan (which I'd expect to also share the platform of Old Pessima) doesn't.
    If we took the first two, it'd make more sense to have the New Van/New Pessima and Old Van/Old Pessima.

    I get the AWS thing, but that also raises the question - would a JDM New Pessima feature AWS? And if it did, which platform would it be built on? - since (as far as JDM market goes)
    Old Pessima - AWS (presumably, the game's is a US market spec, I think)
    Old Van - No AWS
    New Van - AWS
    New Pessima - No, not the proper platform

    In that case, why does a van get AWS but a premium sedan not? Just an interesting question the whole thing brings up.
     
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    The only issue I’ve found is on the USA hillclimb one and its engine has no texture
     
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