Released T-Series H-pattern Shift Logic 12M 1.1

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  1. NOCARGO

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    This mod provides an altered function inside the
    shift pattern of an 8-way H-shifter.

    Do you own an 8-way H-shifter ? And do you have a
    fascination or a specific interest in the T-series
    or other trucks that are available for BeamNG ?
    Then this mod might be useful to you ! :)

    If you have/had experience in real life driving heavy
    trucks ( like I did ) or you have a special interest
    for them you might know that there are a few different
    systems that allow the use of multiple gears while using
    the gear stick. For more immersion and especially for
    more control I have found a way to replicate (simulate)
    one of those systems. This mod for the T-series allows
    an 8-way (7 + R) gear shifter to use the position of
    the 7th gear to act as a switch between low gear shift
    and high gear shift. What does that mean ? It means
    that for the first 6 gears of the T-series 12M gearbox
    you just use the six gear positions available on your
    H-shifter. Then, when it's time to shift to 7th or
    higher, you use the 7th gear position to switch from
    the low shift positions to the high shift positions.
    So, gear position 1 becomes gear position 7, 2 becomes
    8, 3 becomes 9, 4 becomes 10, 5 becomes 11 and 6 becomes
    12. When it's time to shift down to lower gears again
    you shift to the 7th gear position again to switch to
    low shift gearing and 1 is 1 again, 2 is 2 and so on...

    Many real life older types of heavy truck transmissions
    do this by moving the stick to the far left and right
    when it's in neutral position. But as far as I know the
    Thrustmaster TH8A (or other H-shifters) has no sensors
    in the neutral position. Therefore I came to the idea
    to use the 7th position for the task.

    I have tested the system using my Thrustmaster TH8A and
    it seems to work flawlessly, so using the keyboard for
    shifting still works, overrides H-shifter shifting, and
    isn't affected by the 7th gear position switch. This means
    that if you just want to shift using the keyboard all works
    as it should. This also means that if you reverse and you
    want to shift to the 2nd reverse gear you can just use
    the keyboard for this while the H-shifter is in reverse.

    In other words, the system works flawlessly and is a
    great mean to allow for extra control on the T-series.

    This mod is easily transformable to other vehicles, such
    as Kamaz or Heavy Utility Truck maybe, or any other vehicle
    the user wishes it to be applied on. Although I currently
    assigned this mod to the T-series exclusive. The mod is
    tested with other T-series mods installed on the game and
    shows no conflicts. Also, this mod cancels the reverse
    signal for more comfortable 'long duration manouevres'.

    On the demo the H-shifter is used exclusively and two of
    the most popular T-series mods are used in combination
    with my mod. There seems to be a glitch in the replay
    system blocking the readouts from the speed and gear apps.
    The first vid is recorded live though.

    demo a


    demo b (replay)


    https://www.beamng.com/resources/t-series-h-pattern-shift-logic-12m.12129/
     
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  2. den_chik

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    Its very interesting mod, but can you make the same for more common 6-speed shifters? May be by assign simply dedicated key for change the range...
     
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    You mean you have no 7 + R shifter but a 6 + R shifter ? Yes it can easily done by assigning the high-low switch to a key binding.
    If you want I can look into that and give you an instruction on how to reprogram (not difficult) this.

    edit : by the way why don't you just try to assign a key to 'gear7' in your controls menu ? I think it should
    work out of the box and I am going to try this right now. :)

    edit edit : Okay, it's very easy ! Just go to controls, vehicle specific and assign a key or button to
    high/low switch. Done :D
     
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    #4 den_chik, Apr 14, 2020
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    Glad you got it working :)
    I will take a look at some other heavy vehicles soon, certainly the Kamaz. But it won't be for today though ;)
    Jalkku Semi I don't know that one yet, is it on the repo ?
    edit Ah it's the Heavy Utility Truck, IIRC it's using the older drivetrain system in the jbeam files.
    It might work but I give it chances 50/50. I'll check it out soon.
     
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    While MRcrash has released wonderful MAN TGS it would be great to apply its shifting to it.
     
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    I KNOW :D but I'm really busy right now. I will look in to that soon. :)
     
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    - Bumping my thread for incoming posts...
     
  12. TurboedRx7

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    ok so there is a couple or 1 mod that will interfere with this mod and those are t series addon by ar162b, gavril t series expansion pack, i havent found out which of these mods are the one thats causing the issues but i just disabled both and be done with.
     
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    Thank you for bringing it to the thread :) I thought the addon by ar162b was outdated or broken by last version of the game but I see in its reviews that it's still being used. Maybe I was wrong ? In any case my mod was compatible with both of these mods simultanously on version 0.19 . I will check out both of these mods again in the near future just to make sure.
     
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    Hello. I don't know what happened but this mod is not working. I tried use it without any other mods but it's no purpose :( But, old version for MAN is work correctly.
     
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    To answer these questions (remarks) I have come up with one problem that seems a little odd. It seems that the latest version of https://www.beamng.com/resources/gavril-t-series-expansion-pack.636/ does not spawn the third axle of its heavy config in my game, even with all other mods disabled. This is also the mod that's not compatible with my mod, because I think all the engines are modified ones.

    Aside from above I am surprised that AR162B's https://www.beamng.com/resources/gavril-t-series-addon.178/ still seems to work flawlessly to date. I believe after 0.20's first release it was broken due to the infamous wheel issues but after the hotfix all seems to be fine. Luckily because I really love that mod :)

    example 1 : my mod without other mods active


    example 2 : the GTG mod being incompatible and even broken on my side, also without other mods active


    example 3 : my mod in combination with AR162B's mod working flawlessly, I spawned all dollies and several trailer configs

    Yes I was too lazy to move that dolly so at the end I got a little stuck :p

    If anyone else has a problem with the third axle of Gregory TheGamer's mod please feel free to let me know, it was working fine for me in 0.19 and I can't seem to find a reason for breaking it myself since I deactivated all other mods upon testing.

    Finally, if you report problems concerning my mod please make sure you are using the latest version of BeamNG.drive as well as the latest version of the mod itself. Thanks for the comprehension.
    --- Post updated ---
    I just discovered that I need GTG's Common Mod to have all wheels work properly in his T-Series Expansion Mod.
     
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  16. -V8-

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    Sorry, my mistake. I fixed it.
    How doing that range key toggle on high only if this is press?
    What I need to modifying?
     
  17. NOCARGO

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    I guess you are using a realistic shift knob ? Try to replace the mod with this one below and see if it works. I can't test it myself, I have only push buttons on my controllers.

    instruction :
    1. take existing mod out of mods folder
    2. put zip file from this message in mods folder
     
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  18. TurboedRx7

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    ok thanks for clearing it up, good to know i can still use AR162B's mod.
     
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    Yes, few years ago I modified shifter for ETS and I use splitter and range selector switches.
    Knob version not work like a switch, just like a button.
    But anyway thank you very mutch for your great mod!
     
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    I'm sorry, I overlooked something. This one below WILL work with your ETS shifter !
     

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