Update Speculation thread

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I'm wondering if we might actually see a frame swap for this one... Modern hot rods will often drop an original body onto a modern frame, and Roadkill episode 154 featured race cars made from a '34 Ford replica shell dropped onto a G-body frame (Basically the Moonhawk platform)

 

True, I've also seen the same thing done to older pickups, where they take the body of a early 80s truck and put it on the modern frame of a new truck, keeping the new interior and engine from the 2010s truck

 

not sure if this has already been done but i put it all together as well as possible so now we can see two thirds of the car as a whole! (edit higher quality image)

 

wonder if we'll get any pickup versions

 

I really think there will be a hot rod

 

It appears to have a slight rake forward chop top

 

To me the cab looks early-mid 1930s (1932-1934), which fits with the sketch drawings which also look about the same time period. I am so happy that we are getting a prewar car, with a rumble seat too! I wonder if we will get a sedan? Sedans did appear in the sketches.

 

Pre war car CHECK, Rear trunk seat CHECK!

Hype massive check! Could be a early all steal, BUT seeing it was the change over from wood to steel, I would say this could crash very well.


So for the fact some wont use it. its fine as i will use this VERY VERY much. as it is my most used car is bluebuck/barstow.


the burnside gets used yes. BUT lack of a rusty skin does kinda stop me a little bit,


however this car, Either is NOT in game yet ( will we get it in time )


Or the vidoes are older ( they recoreded it while ago. and only uploaded it now ) OR they just loaded the 3D model in the the program.


We seen engine and now the body.. looking very very cool

 

If you are looking for a rusty skin for the Burnside, CEEP has a rusty skin for it
https://www.beamng.com/resources/classic-engine-expansion-pack.29161/

 

Awssome, I have no idea how i missed it lol. Thanks Legthepeg


And on topic, anyone thinks its in game. I mean they really been teasing this pre car beauty and nothing else. so i have conflicting ideas if its comeing or not ( for the dec update ) lol

 

A stock new prewar car will be my default from the time it come out onward
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They teased cars on similar states as this and they came out the update after. I think the devs mix older wip or images that look less finished to suprise us and keep us on our toes. I feel confident for December. Maybe, who knows?

 

Another major issue with the Burnside is that it doesn't have that many parts and it's not been updated in a very, very long time. Its last major content additions (skin UVs and the taxi version) were in 0.13, more than six years ago. And before that, its last major content additions (the 6.9L V8, drag/race parts, and two-tone rooves) were in 0.8, almost eight years ago. It barely had any content on release, as well, with only four configs, three transmissions, and one engine with no tuning parts. It also lacks coil springs (which, as I discovered about two years ago, is really bad for handling) or wider suspension like the Miramar, so it has quite a low performance cap compared to the other pre-1975 cars.

On top of all that, I feel like the Bluebuck's mostly taken the Burnside's audience of "big, old US-built barge", so it makes sense that the Burnside's not very popular anymore.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this drops in 0.34 - we don't tend to get vehicles teased as far out as we used to. Which is fine by me, personally.

 

I feel fairly confident in saying that we'll get this prewar car in December as well, maybe around Christmas

 

Now that another teaser has been released, I hope to see a four-door sedan body style (as I love sedans a lot) for it, perhaps also a station wagon, too.

Yup. I'd also say festive season.

 

I would be surprised if we didn't get different body styles

 

Agreed. i think it was the OLD way in Beamng to only get one body style. but around the bluebuck era they added more.

I would love a sedan. ( 4 door ) and convertible phaeton style. Sorry for posting. BUt to me pre war cars and life is something am into

 

This is not common at all, 99% of hot rods don't do this. At most some people did Volkswagen frame hot rods (Piccolina frame under would be cool), in the 70s some Japanese truck frames, or some show cars not based on production bodies like Ed Roth's cars, but those would be more like a custom body on a Burnside than a version of this new car.

 

It absolutely is not rare at all. You can buy a modern frame for starting $3k USD, $15k for a nice one. Countless shops fab modern frames for these things. Hell, you could go on eBay right now and have one in your driveway by the end of the week. Personally eBay has 6 within 100 miles of me for under $4k USD. Some follow the original design, some are fully custom to allow modern suspension for your hot rod builds. As I mentioned in my first post, plenty of short track race cars dropped original or reproduction shells onto various ladder frames.

Mike Finnegan's Blasphemi is the same concept, just on a 1950's car. (Blasphemi is a '55 Chevy on a Jim Myers Racing Products frame).

Here is just one example of a shop that has frames
https://www.bolingbrothers.com/model-a-frames/

There are countless results online for shops that do this sort of stuff.

 

The dirt track cars on roadkill had the bodies weren't '34 fords at all, that was more like stretching and contorting a fibreglass body to fit over the shape of a '70s chassis.
The aftermarket frames you speak of are always custom built to fit under the car and largely match the original shape, they just sometimes have suspension adapted from something like a mustang II.

There is a decent likelihood they might have a custom chassis if there's a substantial layout change, like an IFS conversion or more bracing,
but I still wouldn't expect it to share assets with the moonhawk, since most of the time those have components fabricated from plate and tube steel, and that's an easy way for them to adjust it to fit the car.

now this is an interesting speculation topic- multiple other cars have had up to 2 bodystyles, most often sedans and wagons.
the new rumble seat teaser shows a 5-window coupe body, and the previous teaser contains multiple 5-window coupes:

along with some 3-window coupes:

Note that the most developed sketch of all (above right) shows a 3-window coupe in contrast to the teased model of the 5-window coupe.
There are also a few that look like sedans, it's not apparent whether they're 2 or 4-door, but how far back the quarterlight window goes suggests they're meant to be of the 2-door variety:



Speaking of use cases, sedans are also likely; you'd need a sedan to make a police car, and you'd need specifically a 4-door sedan to make a taxi config.

hot rods were also most commonly made from roadsters, then coupes second. these two share a lot of parts so it's not impossible to have both while still having other body styles.

However, regarding roadsters and phaetons, whether due to jbeam constraints or the lack of audio simulation, the devs have avoided making any convertibles thus far other than targa tops (see the K-series, Wendover and Diana most notably), so ragtop variants are most likely off the table.

A pickup isn't entirely ruled out, but by this point most were built on a thicker, straighter chassis than their sedan counterparts, and had different shaped running boards, if the body was the same as the sedan at all. I think there would be too many different parts for them to justify it.
We might see one as another vehicle at a later date. that would also allow for heavier duty variants, as with the D-series.

As for other variants like a woodie station wagon, I think they're too niche and different to be worth making.

 

As far as a short tracker/NASCAR modifieds go, yes they generally use replica shells and heavily modified frames, but the team is no stranger to superbuilds at this point. The modern Class 5 buggy has almost no Piccolina left other than front suspension bits, so I'd say one of these is still fair game. Especially with the gameplay team focusing on motor sports now, a short track car would be great to see so we can embrace our inner Richie Evans. And if I'm going to be talking about superbuild possibilities, I have to remind everyone of the Beck Kustom that was in the NFS games. BigTime did a video on the real car a few weeks ago, mechanically it mostly is an S2K. Just imagine something like that in game... Of course all of these are fairly extreme examples, but again we do have the precedent for extreme superbuilds already.

The IFS example is the best example of the frame swaps I was talking about, this kit is one example of an IFS conversion frame for these cars. It's not always primarily for suspension though, the company I linked earlier makes custom wheelbase frames for the pickup bodies that are built to basically have the cab scraping on the ground.

I'd love to see this car get different eras of hot rod builds. A contemporary bootlegger special, a mid century American Graffiti type build, and a modern IFS build with semi-slicks and a high revving engine