Update Speculation thread

I thought they were to see just in front of the bumper?

 

hes trying his best

 

lowkey though the pigeon (and wigeon) are lacking a lot of content. i expected them to at least add a box upfit or estate body... imo it's my least favorite remaster and i hope they add more stuff in the future

 

A van version of the Pigeon like the Reliant Supervan would be great

 

Honestly I'm surprised nobody's modded an estate body in the game.

 

That's what the original Ibishu Dove was

 

Bro I wasn't around for that mod how would I know

 

Hence why I told you

 

The only thing that really matters is, does it still work?
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I thought of the Phantom as well but it was a pretty niche vehicle and not exactly a great seller so I don’t blame him for not knowing about it

 

yes, although, no modern features, and you go deaf whenever you crash/drive over bigger bumps

 

Tbh, the years of use is a subject I often forget due to age not really being applicable in a game in the usual sense we know of IRL...
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Hmmm, hadn't thought of that either! Guess LegThePeg and you changed my perspective on this one!

 

Well, that's only true about US school buses/citybuses. Considering the Wentward is the only bus in game, and basically the only good one that's not RHD, it could have some extra things, like an EU version and other things. About its differences, it has only the low entry version, while IRL a bus from that time would have a High floor version that could serve as the base for a Type D Rear engined school bus.
Why US does School buses in such a stupid and outdated fashion, is incredible. Would be WAY more cost effective to use citybuses as the base, with just some things added instead of putting children on a truck bed like animals. Everywhere in the world, school buses are either straigh up citybuses with changed interiors, and the niche models, for "off road" are again modified citybuses. And it's not because of cost, because a standard School bus in the US, brand new, costs 200+ thousand dollars each, enough money to buy a full on COACH from anywhere.

 

...which would be great to have because the current one is tiny.

 

Other vehicles are know to doing this. One for example being the Grumman LLV "The mail truck" sharing the same frame as the Chevrolet s-10 truck

 

I updated the below post to include the MD CIT truck and a recent post about career mode

 

US school buses are the safest vehicles on the road, due to the amount of laws surrounding them and the safety features they contain.

While yes, it might be slightly cheaper to use an average city bus, school buses are much easier to obtain for rural school districts than a city bus. Also, what's this about putting children on a truck bed? US school buses have a completely custom-made shell and interior. It's not like we're just loading kids into a van (trust me, the back of a van is not as comfortable as a bus).

While that might work for you, it doesn't work as well in the US. Many school buses have to drive in more rural areas, where a large citybus wouldn't work as well. Besides, our bespoke school buses in the US have been created since the 1920s, so why break tradition? There would be little benefit to switch at this point.

 

I'm no expert, so this is just me speculating, but in addition to what Agent_Y said, US-spec school buses are probably better for offroad and rough road performance. City buses just need to run specific, constant, well-defined routes on major roads, while school buses (especially in rural areas, where individual schools serve large areas) need to cover a lot more ground, visit many more remote homes, and travel on gravel or dirt roads for many miles a day. I know you covered rough/offroad performance in your comment, but after a bit of poking around, the only offroad school buses I can find that aren't US-spec are Czech-built Torsus buses, and I don't think those quite qualify. I only searched for a bit, so if you had any specific examples in mind, please feel free to share.

I grew up attending a K-12 school in rural Missouri, with a district of 10-15 miles in radius. The bus we'd take in the morning traveled a 3-4 mile stretch of often rutted gravel road, sometimes with active low water crossings, mud, or snow/ice. I had planned to link a Google Maps Street View of this road, or a set of directions illustrating the bus's route. But even today, well over a decade after I stopped riding this route, the road lacks Street View coverage and Google refuses to consider it a valid navigational route. That's how remote some of these places are, and my case is hardly an extreme example. You don't need massive tires there, but low ground clearance w/ airbag suspension can only smooth out so much.

tl;dr - Yes, truck chassis are vulgar. So too are the rural roads of the US and Canada. There's an argument to be made about accessibility and cost effectiveness, but a low-floor city bus would get trashed driving the roads I grew up on.

 

Plus, Our school buses in the USA are more easer to build and cheaper to make. Brand new IC busses near me cost 90,000.

 

I'm sorry, Those are a bunch of modified citybuses for rural uses. You know how much those in the picture cost? A bit under 90 grand. Yes, they lack the lights and the stop sign, but those can't cost alone, 30 grand. And they are the most expensive option.
Want a smaller option? The one below this costs less than 80 grand.



For urban centers, they are simply citybuses painted yellow and with different interiors (Kid safe seats with seatbelts and other changes). Clearly american companies are just too lazy to update their designs for cheapness, and that cheapness does not translate into lower prices.