Update Speculation thread

SSRG · Aug 22, 2023

FFIVGUY said: ↑

That's probably what the I3_3 sound will be used for
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And/or I4_4

McBeamer94 · Aug 22, 2023

FFIVGUY said: ↑

That's probably what the I3_3 sound will be used for
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I'd say it's certain, since ATVs/UTVs are rugged and somewhat coarse vehicles, designed for withstanding hard usage, so this new I3 sound is appropriate. The Vivace I3 sound is much more refined in comparison.

Obnoxious · Aug 22, 2023

I don't think I recognize the area on Utah where the screenshot was taken. It looks like the part of the outer road system where there is a parking lot in a hairpin where the trail from the repair station ends, but I don't recall any large structures in that area...
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Obnoxious said: ↑

I don't think I recognize the area on Utah where the screenshot was taken. It looks like the part of the outer road system where there is a parking lot in a hairpin where the trail from the repair station ends, but I don't recall any large structures in that area...
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Or it could be where the tourist area is, but why does the highway keep going?

bussin.buses · Aug 22, 2023

Obnoxious said: ↑

I don't think I recognize the area on Utah where the screenshot was taken. It looks like the part of the outer road system where there is a parking lot in a hairpin where the trail from the repair station ends, but I don't recall any large structures in that area...
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Or it could be where the tourist area is, but why does the highway keep going?
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Isn't it just across from the dealership, and the building in the background is the other dealership, at AJ Auto?

Métronome · Aug 22, 2023

Looks like the picture has been taken somewhere here, in this road in this direction, we can see the highway in the back.
But there's a new building in the left, doesn't have any similarities with the garage. What is it ?

Aquila:) · Aug 23, 2023

Great work on sum

ManfredE3 said: ↑

'Tis the time of the season:

Color coding:
Green means we can be reasonably certain of it in the next update
Orange means we can expect it in near future and potentially the next update
Red means it's either confirmed to not be coming in the near future whatsoever or in development limbo

Past teaser logs for reference:
0.29
0.28
0.27

Updated 2023/08/22, new items in bold

Release date: 0.29 was early July, at a 3 month update cycle we'll be looking at early October.

Vehicle content:

SxS:

Teaser of a WIP model on 2023/08/08. Update speculation thread discussion starts here. Accompanying Instagram video can be found here. This appears to be a side by side like the one in the Johnson Valley Map concept art, and the Instagram video has some other thing on the screen that Jared pointed out quick. It might not be a SxS but it definitely is something along the lines of a performance off road utility vehicle

2023-08/22 Teaser Tuesday post. Update speculation thread discussion starts here. There's a bit to unpack here, certainly more than initially meets the eye. The most obvious new item is that gooseneck trailer for the D-Series. It's been ages since we've gotten any attention to trailers, and gooseneck trailers opens up an entire new range of possibilities. @Pr9tkin played with the lighting a bit to get a better look at what is actually on the trailer and behold: a side by side. To me this is most reminiscent of a Can Am Maverick, the closest competitor to that is the Polaris RZR and Honda Talon. Unfortunately this is a fairly small niche IRL so there isn't much more to look at, but it's also an open niche that gives the devs a lot of room for creativity while still keeping it realistic

As far as brand goes, we already have a fair number of options without resorting to a new company. SP specializes in low production race truck builds so I don't see them getting into this segment. This would fit FPU very nicely, and the lore behind them is that they nearly went bankrupt after the Wydra... Key word, "nearly". Then there's Hirochi. Hirochi doesn't really have any lore but they seem to take after Japanese industry/technology company than a dedicated automotive firm, so a side by side could certainly be in their wheelhouse.

As far as configs... The IRL counterparts generally have a surprising amount of factory configs, but I think factory offerings can be distilled into just a couple of options. Drivetrain will probably be a 2 or 3 cylinder, somewhere around 1 liter displacement, with either a CVT or dual clutch. Optional turbo for high trim levels and certainly something massively overpowered for race configs. Realistically this should be offered in 2 and 4 door options, but the team doesn't always go for LWB options with their vehicles so we have to wait and see for that. Probably some options for body work but nothing crazy (lightweight roof, half vs quarter doors, etc...), potentially an optional snorkel and once we get ropables a winch... As far as non-factory configs go, it'll probably be pretty standard. Custom configs, race configs, maybe an emergency rescue config. I'm sure we'll see the team do something creative/silly with the platform. A military config isn't off of the table; militaries IRL do use side x sides and we have a few military configs in game now.

SBR remaster: While there's no proper sign of a remaster coming up, @McBeamer94 and @dart have been going back and forth about some new intercoolers for the SBR's engine that are in the files. In order to actually use these the SBR's body would need some changes, which suggests this is possibly next on the list of upcoming remasters. The SBR engine with intercoolers did make it into the Piccolina, I still think these will make it into the SBR properly someday.

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Post #2

Post #3

Moonhawk remaster: Again, no proper sign of a remaster but many speculate that her remaster is next due to the fact that for whatever reason they have been drip-feeding content to the Moonhwak but not other vehicles.

Grand Marshall remaster: It was remastered but not to the same scope that current remasters cover, so sooner or later the team should be returning to this one

Update 2023-06-20: The GM did get some content in 0.29, but nothing to see as far as quality improvements. In fact it might be a bit worse now with that fake chain on the roof that behaves in a really wonky manner

Gavril T-Series remaster: A lot of people have been suggesting this will be coming up as it got the hydraulic updates and was omitted from the 0.28 openable door improvements. While the new hydraulics is probably just a case of new content with limited applications currently, the lack of openable doors is strange.

@bussin.buses pointed out that it didn't get a working shifter along with not getting opening doors

Other remasters: The following vehicles have yet to be fully remastered and have not been mentioned above: Burnside '53 Special, ETK I-Series, Gavril Barstow, Hirochi Sunburst, Ibishu 200BX, Ibishu Hopper, Ibishu Miramar, Ibishu Pessima mod.1988, Wentward DT40L

See this post for some speculation from @CaptainZoll discussing potential heavy equipment additions. Another one here. The idea of a heavy equipment update has been picking up steam in the community and a lot of people seem convinced we will be getting one soon.

Also by @CaptainZoll: A post summarizing the top vehicle requests on the vehicle suggestion thread. This list combined with a bit of speculation as to under represented brands/niches and what would be useful for gameplay and we could get a decent idea of the more likely upcoming vehicles.

Map content:

Maybe a cliff map remaster? Nothing else to say here really...

Physics & such:

Ropeables: TDev mentioned that ropes/ties are WIP and winches are on his short term wish list. Not only would that be important for cargo and off road gameplay, but it would also allow for more types of vehicles (Cranes, wreckers, hook & chain tow trucks, etc....).

@LucasBE has a post discussing some bits related to ropeables

See this post for some speculation from @CaptainZoll with a pic of a winch already modelled for the Wydra

Airbags: Airbags were tested but declared not currently feasible

Improved Aerodynamics: TDev was going to come back to this question during his Q&A but never did

TDev mentioned in a post-0.29 Q&A that there are no updates here, it's still on their to-do list but other items take priority.

Tire Thermals; Mud/Scratches: Things in these directions will be coming soon.

From the post-0.29 Q&A TDev did: Tire thermals remain WIP with no ETA

From the aforementioned Q&A: Mud/dirt/scratches and car alarms are under consideration but they cannot make any promises at this time

ABS Updates: Vehicle electronics are one of those things that are pretty much always WIP and a potential to see in an update; but on 2022/10/21 Diamondback posted some big ABS improvements with the note that he is working on an overall ABS overhaul.

Additional post here

Shift logic: On 2023/04/10 Diamondback showed off concept for shift logic updates.

Shoutout to @CaptainZoll for reminding me to put this here

Update 2023/05/28: Another related post on this

Ignition System: From the post 0.29 Q&A: Fixes to this system are coming in 0.30

Gameplay:

Walking mode; Triggers; Career Mode Sneak Peak; AI/Traffic updates; Mission System; Steam Achievements; and UI changes have all been WIP in recent updates and this will most likely continue for the foreseeable future

@LucasBE has a post discussing some bits related to career mode and the like

Everything Else:

Misc: TDev's long term wish list includes deformable terrain, "huge" maps, and more. He hopes that they will finally get on that 3 month update cycle they've been mentioning but unable to stick to.

Torquescript: Ongoing effort to remove TorqueScript

We did see some progress towards this in 0.27

Driver Model: Feasibility of a driver model was being investigated

Pedestrians: Same for pedestrians, which were deemed not currently feasible but still on the long term wish list.

Additional post on this topic

Sounds: Expect a post from TDK about what they have been working on at some point. Perhaps related to audio ray tracing, which will potentially improve cabin noises and allow for some other cool stuff.

Additional post here.

Update: See this comment from @FFIVGUY.

Graphics:

From the post 0.29 Q&A: Finishing Vulcan implementation is a priority

Another post from the above Q&A on graphics

Unused engine sounds: 4 cylinder that kinda sounds like a rotary/wankel from @dart and i3, i6 diesel, and V8 courtesy of @LucasBE

Update: 0.27 did use the new V8 sound, the others remain unused

Mystery features: The 0.29 devblog ended with "Meanwhile, the team continues pushing the pedal to the metal behind the scenes to ensure that the next update includes several major improvements and new features.". No sign of what this is yet.

TDev mentioned we will get another "Over the Horizon" post some day.

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Great work on summing up all of this. I personally am really looking forward to the ”Over the horizon” post

ImJacksBrother · Aug 23, 2023

happy bday leeloo!

simsimw · Aug 23, 2023

Leeloo said: ↑

One day I hope we can do a live stream teaser or something of sort.

Everything's default but the sun was moved to match where the secret vehicle is. The ToD was then granularly adjusted in WE to hit the right angle and bloom intensity.

This is Utah btw.
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Omg that’s a great idea!!! Like in June 2013 when they did a pre release live stream
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Leeloo happy birthday!

bmwcrazy456 · Aug 23, 2023

Métronome said: ↑

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Looks like the picture has been taken somewhere here, in this road in this direction, we can see the highway in the back.
But there's a new building in the left, doesn't have any similarities with the garage. What is it ?
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Nah, that's definitely a few blocks after turning left out of the visitors center. I'd bet the building visible is the visitor's ctr.

Lakapuka · Aug 23, 2023

Happy birthday Leeloo! Turns out we share the same birthday.

toyota.potato · Aug 23, 2023

Happy birthday leeloo!

TalksWithNoise · Aug 23, 2023

Another Happy Birthday Leeloo! I hope it’s been a great one
*Looks back at my previous Birthday comment and scribbles it out for the Loo*

simsimw · Aug 23, 2023

Lakapuka said: ↑

Happy birthday Leeloo! Turns out we share the same birthday.
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Happy. Birthday too then!!

Hood Baxter · Aug 23, 2023

Happy birthday Leeloo

TLevi · Aug 23, 2023

Happy Birthday Leeloo
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Métronome said: ↑

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Looks like the picture has been taken somewhere here, in this road in this direction, we can see the highway in the back.
But there's a new building in the left, doesn't have any similarities with the garage. What is it ?
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oh come on guys, the teaser picture is taken in the road that goes from the gas station, near the repair shop.

trekko727 · Aug 23, 2023

Happy bday Leeloo
hope good things come your way <3

Métronome · Aug 23, 2023

TLevi said: ↑

Happy Birthday Leeloo
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oh come on guys, the teaser picture is taken in the road that goes from the gas station, near the repair shop.
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Okay, so here.
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Oh, another thing, there are beams behind Work In Progress banner, like the Gambler update with tire tracks.
What could it be ? Better beams ? grab noder ? ropes ? Anything else ? Or repairing functionnality ?

LucasBE · Aug 23, 2023

Métronome said: ↑

Oh, another thing, there are beams behind Work In Progress banner, like the Gambler update with tire tracks.
What could it be ? Better beams ? grab noder ? ropes ? Anything else ? Or repairing functionnality ?
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Two words : brand identity

Turbo49> · Aug 23, 2023

Are we really at the point where we're trying to find a hidden meaning behind simple graphic designs

SSRG · Aug 23, 2023

Turbo49> said: ↑

Are we really at the point where we're trying to find a hidden meaning behind simple graphic designs
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But what if the beams meant this update is being developed by BeamNG GmbH?!!1!

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