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LegThePeg · Jun 13, 2024

toyota.potato said: ↑

Remaster mk1 when
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Are you sure you read that quote correctly?

brunifdez · Jun 13, 2024

What is this skybox?????!!

edit: nvm its just the mod's thumbnail

whattowrite · Jun 13, 2024

so do you guys thing we will get a teaser before or after the hotfix

Métronome · Jun 13, 2024

whattowrite said: ↑

so do you guys thing we will get a teaser before or after the hotfix
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A new hotfix is coming ? How do we know this ?
"qa_latest" has been updated but it doesn't looks like it means anything.

Pr9tkin · Jun 13, 2024

https://www.beamng.com/threads/the-forced-feedback-disappears-every-5-15-minutes.98739/#post-1732395

I apologize for going a little off topic, but can any of you reproduce my problem? I'm trying to figure out if this is the case for everyone or if it's just my hardware that's acting up....

toyota.potato · Jun 13, 2024

LegThePeg said: ↑

Are you sure you read that quote correctly?
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Huh?

erm, why no texture on Hirochi race way

LegThePeg · Jun 14, 2024

toyota.potato said: ↑

Huh?

erm, why no texture on Hirochi race way
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No I meant what was after the “What if…” text

Tyleroo · Jun 14, 2024

The BeamNG newsletter is the only newsletter that I would consciously sign up to. not that I would unconsciously sign up to newsletters, umm

Franz027 · Jun 14, 2024

Guys, what are u expecting in this update? I'm so excited! Can't wait for it!!!
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Tyleroo said: ↑

The BeamNG newsletter is the only newsletter that I would consciously sign up to. not that I would unconsciously sign up to newsletters, umm
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What will they put in these newsletters? New updates future teasers?

hacker420 · Jun 14, 2024

Franz027 said: ↑

What will they put in these newsletters? New updates future teasers?
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we don't know

Koichiro Iketani · Jun 14, 2024

LegThePeg said: ↑

What if... we get a hopper remaster
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Cheeky fella

That's definitely on the table, although we have nothing hinting at it

whattowrite · Jun 14, 2024

Métronome said: ↑

A new hotfix is coming ? How do we know this ?
"qa_latest" has been updated but it doesn't looks like it means anything.
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somebody said they talked to a dev and they said they are working on a new hotfix could be a lie tho

Métronome · Jun 14, 2024

whattowrite said: ↑

somebody said they talked to a dev and they said they are working on a new hotfix could be a lie tho
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Okay.

LegThePeg · Jun 14, 2024

Franz027 said: ↑

Guys, what are u expecting in this update? I'm so excited! Can't wait for it!!!
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What will they put in these newsletters? New updates future teasers?
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Well, this first one that was just released has artwork from the community, as well as info about new things in BeamNG (Update 0.32, Community Translations, hiring Discord moderators).

ManfredE3 · Jun 14, 2024

ManfredE3 said: ↑

Second time in a row I'm doing this before we've had any teasers, but I'm sick of not being able to find the posts about the new T-Series content in the game files so I'm just going to do this now instead of making a bookmark...

Color coding:
Green means we can be reasonably certain of it in the next update
Orange means we can expect it in near future and potentially the next update
Red means it's either confirmed to not be coming in the near future whatsoever or in development limbo

Past teaser logs for reference:
0.32
0.31
0.30
0.29
0.28
0.27

Updated 2024/06/14, new items in bold

Release date: mid/late July 2024. That puts us at 3 months after the last update.

Vehicle content:

Gavril T-Series remaster part 3: This was confirmed to be coming in the 0.32 dev blog: "Unfortunately, due to technical difficulties, some of the planned features were not included in the current release. This means that you have more to look forward to in future updates, including a V8 engine, additional frame options, and more axle configurations."

There's really 3 realistic possibilities for the V8: A tall deck version of the Gavril 6.9, a two stroke diesel, or a 4 stoke diesel. The tall deck automotive V8 would be really cool to see for engine swaps, but one of those would only make sense for a medium duty truck, which we don't currently have. A two stroke diesel would be another awesome choice, but sound files would probably suck to get. Which just leaves the 4 stroke, probably inspired by the Cat 3408. Since everyone always loves speculating about equipment in game, it's worth noting that there were versions of that engine designed for all sorts of applications. Sometimes parts from those versions are used to upgrade the semi truck versions

Additional frame options... I'm honestly not sure what that implies. Upfits? Lengths? Extreme duty versions? Body lifts?

More axle configurations. That could mean a lot of things since commercial trucks are outfitted in all sorts of ways as the owner requires. Set back front axles, twin steers, tri-axles, single/double/triple lift axles, etc...

@epicfacecanada found, which @Mr Engineer brought to everyone's attention, a collection of T-Series parts in the files

Twin Steer

Diesel V8

Driven front axle with transfer case for it

Lift axle

Lifted walking beam suspension

@CaptainZoll found and applied textures to the aforementioned V8 here. Seems to be a Belasco diesel 4 stroke

SBR remaster: While there's no proper sign of a remaster coming up, @McBeamer94 and @dart have been going back and forth about some new intercoolers for the SBR's engine that are in the files. In order to actually use these the SBR's body would need some changes, which suggests this is possibly next on the list of upcoming remasters. The SBR engine with intercoolers did make it into the Piccolina, I still think these will make it into the SBR properly someday.

Post #1

Post #2

Post #3

Moonhawk remaster: Again, no proper sign of a remaster but many speculate that her remaster is next due to the fact that for whatever reason they have been drip-feeding content to the Moonhwak but not other vehicles. Personally I suspect this will be a holiday update since it has potential to be a big one for new content

Grand Marshall remaster: It was remastered but not to the same scope that current remasters cover, so sooner or later the team should be returning to this one

Update 2023-06-20: The GM did get some content in 0.29, but nothing to see as far as quality improvements. In fact it might be a bit worse now with that fake chain on the roof that behaves in a really wonky manner

ETK I-Series: This is the last of the current career mode starter cars to not be remastered

Other remasters: The following vehicles have yet to be fully remastered and have not been mentioned above: Burnside '53 Special, ETK I-Series, Gavril Barstow, Hirochi Sunburst, Ibishu Hopper, Ibishu Miramar, Ibishu Pessima mod.1988, Wentward DT40L

See this post for some speculation from @CaptainZoll discussing potential heavy equipment additions. Another one here. The idea of a heavy equipment update has been picking up steam in the community and a lot of people seem convinced we will be getting one soon.

Also by @CaptainZoll: A post summarizing the top vehicle requests on the vehicle suggestion thread. This list combined with a bit of speculation as to under represented brands/niches and what would be useful for gameplay and we could get a decent idea of the more likely upcoming vehicles.

Map content:

Research: There has been talk of the devs doing some research on stuff for improved map development, but I can't recall any particular posts about it... If someone can point me to one please do

Update: @Bauer33333 responded with a source for this

Physics & such:

Ropeables: TDev mentioned that ropes/ties are WIP and winches are on his short term wish list. Not only would that be important for cargo and off road gameplay, but it would also allow for more types of vehicles (Cranes, wreckers, hook & chain tow trucks, etc....).

@LucasBE has a post discussing some bits related to ropeables

See this post for some speculation from @CaptainZoll with a pic of a winch already modelled for the Wydra

Airbags: Airbags were tested but declared not currently feasible

Improved Aerodynamics: TDev was going to come back to this question during his Q&A but never did

TDev mentioned in a post-0.29 Q&A that there are no updates here, it's still on their to-do list but other items take priority.

Tire Thermals; Mud/Scratches: Things in these directions will be coming soon.

From the post-0.29 Q&A TDev did: Tire thermals remain WIP with no ETA

From the aforementioned Q&A: Mud/dirt/scratches and car alarms are under consideration but they cannot make any promises at this time

Walking mode; Triggers; Career Mode Sneak Peak; AI/Traffic updates; Mission System; Steam Achievements; VR, decal editor, and UI changes have all been WIP in recent updates and this will most likely continue for the foreseeable future

@LucasBE has a post discussing some bits related to career mode and the like

Check out the dedicated thread for discussing the WIP career mode and look at some of the posts from staff members to get a better idea of what the team has been thinking for career mode

James made this post on 2024/06/13 with a summary of what's coming soon. Bulk/liquid and hazardous cargo which will not have defined routes or quantities, loaner trucks from Spearleaf logistics and a matching skin, and a reputation system which will eventually be expanded to other businesses in game. For now the reputation system will affect the quality and price of loaner vehicles.

I'm just going to quickly run through comments on career mode made between my last summary post and now.... All by James/Krallopian... I'm putting it in a spoiler tag because there's a lot of posts and most of them boil down to "Career mode is WIP, expected features will come when they are ready". There are a few surprises and a few that tie into other items though.

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: James likes the idea of a hardcore mode

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Plans for future releases include expanded delivery cargos (construction equipment, liquids, etc) and more traffic regulations (speed/red light cameras and police)

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: The adventurer branch seems to be a catch-all for any gameplay that is less grounded, from arcade type gamemodes (such as lightrunner and some of the missions we have already seen) to potentially stunt man type missions (I assume this will be like the existing Hustle and Bustle campaign, hopefully including inspiration from the Stuntman games)

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Big plans for the parts selector

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: James hopes to expand the "new parts are primer color" system to give more variety

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Plans for EMT, police, and taxi gameplay are "on the horizon". Barnfind gameplay potential is being explored. The current implementation of fragile cargo was a basic one to gauge interest, improvements to the system are planned.

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: More car maintenance considerations such as oil changes were considered, but generally left out due to not having found the line between realism vs game balance yet for some of them. They may or may not come in the future

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Dynamic day/night cycles depends more on graphics improvements than on the gameplay team

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: The goal for the current paint system is to be able to paint each part individually. While it was not originally a focus, after a few community requests it seems we'll be getting a similar system for freeroam

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Filters to sort dealership stock are planned

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: More talks about the future of delivery missions, this one focusing on some heavy cargo options. Picking up a trailer of cargo at a location opposed to filling cargo boxes, and "staged building". It's interesting that James specifically describes what sounds like a sequenced construction delivery... As a construction PM I think I may get a little too nit-picky when this one comes out ... Adding my personal thoughts on here; I'm both really surprised and worried by James' comments on oversized loads. Personally I think that's an obvious addition that offers a lot of gameplay potential and some time for the team to get creative, while also bringing in unique challenges for the player. While James did say he likes the idea, he also suggested the modding community jump on that one, which doesn't sound good for official inclusion.... Definitely a comment that personally leaves me really worried

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: The current parts management system is not indicative of the planned finished product and there are a lot of planned features for this system

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Delivery missions for rollback/flatbed trucks will get more attention once a system for securing loads is in game

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Some talk about the vision for vehicle rentals. The current system is just a placeholder.

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Owning "homes, businesses, and more" is planned but not currently in development. Personal thought, this is a surprise to me. I expected the ability to purchases garages and maybe "safe houses" as that's pretty standard in open world games, but "businesses" is something I didn't expect and the "and more" is interesting.... Could this be a source for unlocking new missions and/or content? Passive income? A way to unlock quick travel points? Aesthetic only? Test Drive Unlimited style home ownership?

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Development on motorsport branch has started but is very early

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: The ability to purchase salvage cars is planned, but they are focusing on core gameplay development first

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: One of those business opportunities mentioned early will be the ability to buy a dealership and flip cars

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Random events and dynamic street races are planned, but game balance and performance optimization has yet to be figured out

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: James mentioned that he would like some "organize this yard" type missions in the future but we would need appropriate logistics vehicles for it

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Current focus is "finishing" the laborer branch

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: More issues from worn out cars are planned

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: A system to handle the player stealing cars is being considered, but game balance is a concern

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: Eventually the player will be able to refill nitrous bottles at the garage or locations near the drag strip

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept: There will be career UI updates in 0.32, but the "full makeover" isn't ready. The player will be able to paint their car and choose the finish, but paint-by-part will not be ready for 0.32. Fuel delivery missions was intended for 0.32 but will not be ready; but they have made progress on motorsport gameplay.

Early Experimental Preview of Career Concept It would be nice to have realistic market limitations for EUDM/JDM/USDM on maps in career mode, but there are concerns about asking too much from other departments. Maybe we'll see it, maybe not.

Everything Else:

Misc: TDev's long term wish list includes deformable terrain, "huge" maps, and more. He hopes that they will finally get on that 3 month update cycle they've been mentioning but unable to stick to.

Torquescript: Ongoing effort to remove TorqueScript

We did see some progress towards this in 0.27

Driver Model: Feasibility of a driver model was being investigated

Pedestrians: Same for pedestrians, which were deemed not currently feasible but still on the long term wish list.

Additional post on this topic

@Sithhy™ found this video from an expo where TDev is being interviewed about some of the companies research topics and a pedestrian model was shown.

@brunifdez found another

Sounds: Expect a post from TDK about what they have been working on at some point. Perhaps related to audio ray tracing, which will potentially improve cabin noises and allow for some other cool stuff.

Additional post here.

Update: See this comment from @FFIVGUY.

Graphics:

From the post 0.29 Q&A: Finishing Vulcan implementation is a priority

Another post from the above Q&A on graphics

Over the Horizon: TDev mentioned we will get another "Over the Horizon" post some day.

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Updated this post today to include some of the community responses to items I missed and Krallopian's post yesterday about upcoming career mode changes/additions

Ax50 · Jun 14, 2024

Love this little lad from the ADAS convention, maybe one day he'll be a prop in the game?

Métronome · Jun 14, 2024

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Love this little lad from the ADAS convention, maybe one day he'll be a prop in the game?
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What could be his name ? Mr Gist ?

Ax50 · Jun 14, 2024

Métronome said: ↑

What could be his name ? Mr Gist ?
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RoboNG

Métronome · Jun 14, 2024

Ax50 said: ↑

RoboNG
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RedNG, or Re'NG.

Koichiro Iketani · Jun 14, 2024

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What could be his name ? Mr Gist ?
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